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  1. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    I agreed with you. I stated numerous times that the most important factors in tight patterns are chokes, forcing cones, and backboring. Why else would I pay good money to have my personal barrels all backbored and the forcing cones lengthened. But........ If you have 2 barrels, one 22"...
  2. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    Never said anyone here was advocating it's use for HD. I stated clearly who I was referencing.
  3. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    No, they are not being used for aiming. The competitors in question all use receiver-mounted red dot sights, so no sight radius is involved. The shotguns are shot from a stable rest, so they aren't using the longer barrel to aid in swing/follow-through. I explained one theory already. In...
  4. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    The guy quoted in the article in the OP advocated it for HD use, albeit for a stupid fuckin' reason.
  5. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    You are invalidating the argument of pattern sizes and barrel length. In order for the argument to be valid you would have to use the same load in both barrels. If you had 2 shotgun barrels, identical in every way except for length (one being 21" and the other being 32"), and patterned an...
  6. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    I don't buy that. One of the theories is MV. A faster MV forces the shot cup open sooner resulting in a wider pattern. The same shell in a greatly longer barrel has a slower MV, so the cup opens slower. This keeps the shot pattern tighter. I've seen it on slo-mo videos of wad development...
  7. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    I can't answer that because I don't know how or why, but I do have a theory. All I can go by factually is experience and shooting hundreds of shotguns. But since I know how to use Google, here's a quote from a custom gunsmith that makes custom shotgun barrels. "Speaking from a long...
  8. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    Birdshot is a fucking horrible load for personal defense. If it were so effective at close ranges, wouldn't military or LE units be using it for EQCS? Of course they would, yet NONE do. They use 00 buck and slugs. Why? Because they are PROVEN performers. Proven "on the street" as well as...
  9. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    And what I'm saying is that you have no idea how long your HD shot may be. I can get up to a 15yd shot in my house. If the fight spills outside, which has happened to a lot of folks over the years, it could be further. So why limit yourself to a load that will ONLY work at extremely close...
  10. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    Go to someone's website like Sum Toy Custom. They build competition shotguns where folks compete to get the tightest pattern possible. The guys that are winning are using long barrels.
  11. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    Not necessarily. With all other factors being equal a longer barrel will pattern tighter. But if the longer barrel is IC choked and of a standard variety, a shorter barrel with a tighter choke and lengthened forcing cone will pattern tighter. I have a SBS Remington/Wilson Combat 870 with a...
  12. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    The rate that a shot pattern spreads depends on numerous factors: -barrel length -choke -shot hardness -velocity of load -length of forcing cone -shot cup material/design
  13. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    One of my favorite BS home defense phrases. I worked plenty of calls where folks missed with a shotgun, and hunters miss all the time.
  14. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    That depends on numerous factors: -barrel length -choke -shot hardness -velocity of load -length of forcing cone -shot cup material/design
  15. cmshoot

    Savage MSR Teaser

    There are numerous side-charging AR's on the market.
  16. cmshoot

    Interesting point on birdshot for HD

    People ain't cabbages. I must have missed where cabbages were part of the FBI protocol for ammunition testing. I've shot folks with shotguns, and handled a lot of calls where folks were shot with them. Participated in numerous ballistic tests with shotgun loads in various mediums, using...
  17. cmshoot

    Savage MSR Teaser

    Yes I have. Several. I've had more than one student show up to my school with one. The Accustocks I've shot felt like cheap Tupperware. Like I said, I can't stand the feel of the Accutrigger. YMMV, that's my personal opinion on them. Yes, Savages tend to shoot well, but no more so...
  18. cmshoot

    Savage MSR Teaser

    When I looked to purchase a precision AR in .308, side-charging was one of my criteria. Like the man said above, don't wanna have to take my eye off the scope to work the bolt. I bought a JP Enterprises LRP-07 and ain't regretted it yet. Savage's bolt actions are clunky, rattly, and...
  19. cmshoot

    Tactical Tailor holiday sale

    12/13 - 12/19 25% off all items Up to 50% off select items Nisqually pack is 40% off Free shipping on orders over $150 *I have no affiliation with TT, just sharing the deal. They make good shit!
  20. cmshoot

    Trade evaluation help

    Yep, the M110 built by KAC is a POS.