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oio said:
Necked Down .40 actually
Yes I‘m very familiar with the 357sig, I’ve had most of the makes and model handguns chambered in that caliber and still have some.
7.62x22 would be even faster and lighter recoil and better penetration than typical 125gr 357sig, those would be the advantages.
Of course someone may point out “do you want handguns banned, because that’s how you get handguns banned” lol
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First, good luck getting anyone at SIG to admit they used a .40 S&W as the basis of THEIR cartridge. Especially since they were in development around the same time. They’ll say it was an effort to make an equivalent to the .357Mangleum available in a semi-auto pistol the size of a 9mm, and they used a 10mm because it fit their external and internal size requirements, although they likely had to thin the web of the case to expand the case capacity and add a bit more boiler room.

Second, if you want a wildcat cartridge, go ahead. But if you want something close to those requirements in a relatively available caliber, either stick with the 7.62x25, or maybe try the .22TCM. True - it’s a lighter, smaller bullet, but it was making divots in my steel target when 5.56, x39 and even x51 were not.
 
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Axeman said:
First, good luck getting anyone at SIG to admit they used a .40 S&W as the basis of THEIR cartridge. Especially since they were in development around the same time. They’ll say it was an effort to make an equivalent to the .357Mangleum available in a semi-auto pistol the size of a 9mm, and they used a 10mm because it fit their external and internal size requirements, although they likely had to thin the web of the case to expand the case capacity and add a bit more boiler room.

Second, if you want a wildcat cartridge, go ahead. But if you want something close to those requirements in a relatively available caliber, either stick with the 7.62x25, or maybe try the .22TCM. True - it’s a lighter, smaller bullet, but it was making divots in my steel target when 5.56, x39 and even x51 were not.
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I don't really see 22TCM on the shelf many places compared to .357SIG
 
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Axeman said:
First, good luck getting anyone at SIG to admit they used a .40 S&W as the basis of THEIR cartridge. Especially since they were in development around the same time. They’ll say it was an effort to make an equivalent to the .357Mangleum available in a semi-auto pistol the size of a 9mm, and they used a 10mm because it fit their external and internal size requirements, although they likely had to thin the web of the case to expand the case capacity and add a bit more boiler room.

Second, if you want a wildcat cartridge, go ahead. But if you want something close to those requirements in a relatively available caliber, either stick with the 7.62x25, or maybe try the .22TCM. True - it’s a lighter, smaller bullet, but it was making divots in my steel target when 5.56, x39 and even x51 were not.
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Yeah that 40/357sig/10mm origin is always debated, I don’t care either way.
I like the 22tcm, but don’t like RIA stuff and supposedly the Glock conversions aren’t more than 80% reliable. If HK or Glock made them I would definitely get some.
 
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