Spike's Tactical and Pipe Hitters Union Makes Newsweek Loose Their Minds

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It's really no wonder. It's the same company that brought us pro genocide rifles.
 

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It's not a relevant when you're presenting a public face. This was a marketing attempt, correct?
Yeah, but they're not selling dodge Challengers, their selling a polarizing product to begin with and appealing to the base. You can't honestly believe this will hurt their sales?
 

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Yeah, but they're not selling dodge Challengers, their selling a polarizing product to begin with and appealing to the base. You can't honestly believe this will hurt their sales?

He's not worried about sales. He is worried about feelings. It hurt his.
 

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Yeah, but they're not selling dodge Challengers, their selling a polarizing product to begin with and appealing to the base. You can't honestly believe this will hurt their sales?
I don't think it'll hurt their sales, but more importantly it hurts the public perception of the law-abiding decent gun owner. More than dollars I care about the protection of our Second Amendment rights years and decades into the future. Even indirectly aligning yourself with neo-Nazis does not help that cause.
 

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I don't think it'll hurt their sales, but more importantly it hurts the public perception of the law-abiding decent gun owner. More than dollars I care about the protection of our Second Amendment rights years and decades into the future. Even indirectly aligning yourself with neo-Nazis does not help that cause.

Bullshit argument. They dont align with nazis and you know it.
 

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He's not worried about sales. He is worried about feelings. It hurt his.
You're goddamn right I am. Feelings are what drive voters to the voting booth in eliminate our rights with the stroke of a pen. That's really goddamn fucking important to me.
 

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Bullshit argument. They dont align with nazis and you know it.
They are without a doubt the most anti-American gun company in business right now. Their ideals are 100% in opposition to constitutional rights.
 

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You're goddamn right I am. Feelings are what drive voters to the voting booth in eliminate our rights with the stroke of a pen. That's really goddamn fucking important to me.

We know feelings are important to you. I like to shit on people's feelings. They dont mean anything.
 
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I don't think it'll hurt their sales, but more importantly it hurts the public perception of the law-abiding decent gun owner. More than dollars I care about the protection of our Second Amendment rights years and decades into the future. Even indirectly aligning yourself with neo-Nazis does not help that cause.
Well yeah, their strategy for furthering 2nd amendment rights is vastly different from yours I'm sure. But their strategy for selling mid tier products for top tier money is genius.
 

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They are without a doubt the most anti-American gun company in business right now. Their ideals are 100% in opposition to constitutional rights.

How is that? Because they are against violent communists?
 

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Since I have an "indirect dog in this fight", I will recuse myself. However I have more of a "direct dog in this fight", which provides more bias I'm certain, making my recusal even more necessary. However I will say this, @Laufen you bring up a lot of great points, many weighted with a lot of assumptions and mis-aligned understanding, but in no way does anyone in their right mind believe that ANTIFA, the group that wear all black, waving a communist flag, spouting a socialist agenda, using violence to spread fear and has even been labeled as a domestic terrorist organization is the "good guys". This ad depicts 4 veterans standing armed but peacefully (their not pointing their weapons at anyone) against an angry mod of violent protesters.

The advertising is meant to create dialogue, it's meant to be discussed, it's meant to get national attention, it's meant to show the support Spike's and Pipe Hitters Union has for a peaceful free America where no one's speech is being squashed (which has happened by ANTIFA at many events, including Ben Shapiro's event at Berkley). Using those metrics, the ad was a success. The only people that has shown any opposition to the ad were those that are not in the target demographic (those individuals that would never be a Spikes or PHU customer) or those looking to be argumentative and make an argument where there is none just to show a liberal opposition. Spike's and PHU would defend your right of free speech regardless if they agreed with it. It's when a group becomes violent and shuts down the free speech of others, is when problems arise.

Anyway, I'll recuse myself from this point forward. I thought I'd share this ad and the fake news article from Newsweek, the one from Vice news was even worse...they called the Spike's Snowflake lower a "bump stock used in the mass killings in Los Vegas" - they couldn't be further from the truth. #FakeNews

Let's all play nice...we can have disagreements without butthurt and without insults. We're a community, doesn't mean we have to agree with each other on everything...that would be a cult. :)
 
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Well yeah, their strategy for furthering 2nd amendment rights is vastly different from yours I'm sure. But their strategy for selling mid tier products for top tier money is genius.
Yeah, with total disregard for the future of our rights. Thanks a bunch spikes tactical for slowly profiting from the erosion of my Second Amendment rights.
 

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No one ever accused me of being simple-minded without being correct.

With my simple-minded middle-aged white male biased outlook on life, I see their add and these are the images that are brought to life.

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All I see are citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights to defend their lives and livliehoods from a marauding horde of rioters in the act of looting and burning.


If anyone is too young - these are families of business owners during the Los Angeles riots protecting their property and lives when the police could not/would not. Their businesses survived because they were willing to take a stand against the rioters.