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correct but at these distances all factors become less and less thus why I'd say the only way to get that kinda spread close distance would be with the shortest barrel possible

hell yah! no need to aim when they'll run off with just the sound of you racking it right? lol

I'd imagine its pretty close to that, the only way I'd think it would maybe spread out as far as it is in the pictures in a house would be if it was fired from a judge. I would suspect those open up pretty damn fast

very true statement. I cant count all the stories I've heard of a family member killing another member of their family because they thought they were being robbed and shot instantly

gots to get me a m90np one of these days, love the idea of them

this is a pretty good video that goes over what a lot of different sizes will do at close distance. Another good point he makes is also using a smaller buck shot like #4 buckshot which provides a nice sized projectile with more pellets than something like 00

^ this is also a very good point. big difference between something like a dove load in #8 and a turkey load in #4 or 2

i know its not supposed to be the best but I would bet a 12 gauge birdshot in the close ranges seen in a HD situation would still drop anyone about instantly

cornwell are also good and a bit cheaper than snap on. dad sold tools for all of the big 4 at some point in his life and said between any of them you couldn't go wrong

I could see it happening if more pd go back to 9mm. though I don't know about the 7mm mag part, I still know tons that still love it

dunno, I bet more than a couple of the smaller AR companies will be doing some panicking. one thing im hopeful for is MAYBE companies will stop trying to make the most tactical operator equipment ever.

yah most seem pretty blah. the new canik looks pretty interesting as they are already good guns, add a better trigger and a match grade barrel and now you have me interested. . .well interested depending on the price point. and depending on the price point I'd really like to try out one of...

think you might have linked the wrong video

same thing as a cmmg mutant. only guess I can think of is they just want the AR platform but the ability to use cheaper ak mags

ummmm wtf lol, how the hell did they get the cuts that precise.

property or a machine gun, will never be more of either

yah its just several factors that allow it to be more accurate but it wont expand well on target, same idea as the sierra matchking rounds. Very accurate hollowpoint but specifically states its not for hunting. Now that being said I have bought a few boxes of these 9mm rounds and they were very...

talked with some folks about this the other day and always seems best bet is to build one http://www.sdtacticalarms.com/ lots of good examples out there and you generally cut the cost by at least half

I want big time. I really like the looks and I've always liked the piston system. seems like good parts as well so as long as its priced right i'll deff jump on one