Check out some vids on spalling on the non-build up and extra build up plates. Basic Plates may prevent the direct penetration, but having metallic shrapnel shred your lower abdomen, neck, and upper arms may negate the fact your weren't shot in the lungs or heart. After some research, ie. shooting both plates side by side, and seeing the shredded plate carrier material on the non build up plates...I made my decision. The condors are ok build and fit...but my banshee would be my first choice to carry. Shitty part is no where carriers a wide array carriers. Truprep has some ar500 armor and trauma pads, along with condor carriers...but beyond that I've not found a place that you can really check out a vast set of options.