Ok can't believe I am entertaining this thought. Since I got the Bulldog car vault I am thinking that when I know I have to go places I can't carry that I would feel better have a less expensive pistol left in the car vault. Hi-point (I know I know) has a .380 for $135.00. On that note if I can get it to feel reliable, that it could make a good vault gun when I go to such places. Lifetime warranty and I would not have to ship it if need warranty they are made 45 minutes from where I live. I read the posts on them, seems some have great success and some are complete failures. So I am thinking, could I make this a reliable enough for temporary use for my vault gun. Or is my thinking just of a crazed gun enthusiast having to buy another gun on a small budget to satisfy his needs. No way can I afford my SR9c right now, thinking this may quench my thirst for a spell.