Identify this rifle

[Cudruln]

Was passed down to me from my grandfather from my mom's side. I have always been told that it came from ww2 era, he did participate in it. So any help to better identify this would be cool. Thanks @freedom @NWS @Balthaz

 

[Cudruln]

I can get more detailed pics if I need to. Just let me know.

 

[FatAlbert]

Looks like an Arisaka. Japanese gun.

 

[dial1911]

Looks like an Arisaka. Japanese gun.

Second this- type 30 or 38 probably. Close up of the top of the receiver would help-

 

[Cudruln]

Second this- type 30 or 38 probably. Close up of the top of the receiver would help-

Alright. Give me a little bit and I will grab a close up pic

 

[dial1911]

Alright. Give me a little bit and I will grab a close up pic

The Arisaka's had a chrysanthemum on the top of the receiver. From what Dad told me once, the engraving was ground off out of respect for the emperor of Japan on the war bring backs... if you have one with the flower still showing, it's quite valuable.

 

[Cudruln]

The Arisaka's had a chrysanthemum on the top of the receiver. From what Dad told me once, the engraving was ground off out of respect for the emperor of Japan on the war bring backs... if you have one with the flower still showing, it's quite valuable.

Good to know. I will take a look at it.

 

[TruPrep]

Definitely a gun.

 

[freedom]

Definitely an Arisaka. I don't know enough to ID beyond that. I have a 99, i believe a shorter barrel than the 38, that's 7.7jap. I think the 30 & 38 are 6.5, but may be wrong.



Maybe the 30 is 6.5 and 38 is 7.7

 

[freedom]

My "last ditch" type 99
Last ditch refers to an end of the last ditch effort at the end of WW2. To save metal it has a wooden butt plate, no airplane sights. Some parts are cast in sand moldings and you can tell, it almost looks like a prop rifle, from how cheaply made it looks up close
The intact mum
Flip up sights. Earlier ones have wings that flip out to help with leading planes flying overhead.
Reciever markings. You can google these and find the year and arsenal, some are worth much more than others

 

[FatAlbert]

I got one from my uncle with a monopod and dust cover that slides with the bolt. It also has the wings on the rear sight. Looks like a sniper model but from what I can tell it has no scope mount.

 

[freedom]

I got one from my uncle with a monopod and dust cover that slides with the bolt. It also has the wings on the rear sight. Looks like a sniper model but from what I can tell it has no scope mount.

The dust cover adds a good bit to the value, or so I've been told.

 

[FatAlbert]

The dust cover adds a good bit to the value, or so I've been told.

It's hard to find a value on these rifles. I'm in the process of appraising my uncle's arsenal so we can split it between 4 beneficiaries and that's one that has me stumped. At first I thought it to be about a $125 rifle but further research looks like some of these bring a much higher price.

 

[Cudruln]

So I am definitely thinking 30 at this point. Here are some detailed pics of the upper.

 

[freedom]

It's hard to find a value on these rifles. I'm in the process of appraising my uncle's arsenal so we can split it between 4 beneficiaries and that's one that has me stumped. At first I thought it to be about a $125 rifle but further research looks like some of these bring a much higher price.

With DC, airplane sights which are commonly broken, and intact mum(you didn't say), I would guess 400+ in decent condition. I would PM @Kyle Turner here or palmetto moon at the ODT, same guy, for some help. Really knowledgeable on jap rifles.

 

[freedom]

So I am definitely thinking 30 at this point. Here are some detailed pics of the upper. View attachment 16403 View attachment 16404 View attachment 16405

I'd agree from the reciever. No mum or grind marks?

 

[Cudruln]

I'd agree from the reciever. No mum or grind marks?

Nope no mum or grind marks. There are no visible marks anywhere on it.

 

[freedom]

Nope no mum or grind marks. There are no visible marks anywhere on it.

I've never seen a 30 up close, maybe they aren't supposed to be there.

 

[Cudruln]

I've never seen a 30 up close, maybe they aren't supposed to be there.

I have no idea. Time to do some Google

 

[EugenFJR]

Nope no mum or grind marks. There are no visible marks anywhere on it.

Sounds like a last ditch rifle. Very cool. I'd clean up the wood, and oil it. But I'd never fire it.