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After seeing that video I am leaning AK. That Bolton Block makes the gun look SOOO much better. Couple that with a shortened barrel and the PWS brake and it looks like a winner.

and it blew its head gaskets 3 mins after filming..

Objectively I think the answer is AK/VZ. It is the simplest design that offers the best mix of accuracy, power, firepower, and cost. The PTR/HK just tugs on my heartstrings more...but offers 98% of the reliability of the AK and twice the power..

Lol good luck

Lol

The V2 is the newer version with a fix for the few little problems the V1 had...how much of an improvement I don't know.

I was making fun... Why take the chance on a "who made it?" Frame when Caspian makes excellent units that aren't much more.

Did Caspian stop building frames?

Lol I don't. I get way to ocd about making the best choice that I agonize over rediculous details. VZ2008 with 2 mags from PSA is $417 shipped. 5 mags are about $95. A case of Wolf is $220. Total: $732 PTR91 16" GI: $800 with 12 mags. C39 V2 with a case of ammo and 3 mags :$1000. I am very...

So..without getting into details...the price difference between a PTR91 and a VZ2008/mags/ammo is now only $150.

At least 10. How many rounds do you have through yours? Have you had "the gremlin" and/or have you tabbed your bolt carrier? Reading about how the VZ2008S NEED to have a tab welded on has admittedly put a sour taste in my mouth. Otherwise, if the mags are around $10 then it is an awesome gun...

Mags man...mags but I will happily come shoot stuff lol

Does Tapco make suitable AK mags? I am trying to narrow down between a Zastava M70 NPAP, a Century C39V2, and a VZ2008....The VZ2008 is cheapest but the mags seem to be about $15/pop

but....308

The SCAR ate that stuff happily...it's decent quality brass ammo for MUCH less than $1 a round!

LOL.....everyone is saying "go AK" but then saying how awesome 308 is...

LOL you must have posted that as I was typing my response....Sig continually drops the ball on the 556R. Damn shame.

I just wish Sig would get their act together with those 556s. I would get one except I've read of some rather startling problems with the xi Russians...not cycling and turning into single shots.

If I'm going to spend the money to feed a 308 gun then it will be a PTR. Those 308 AKs are cool and all and a bit cheaper but the mags seem to be pretty pricey and hard to find. PTR mags are $3/each. Plus, if I go AK it will be one that I can easily take parts off of any other AK and get it back...

I am in the market for a new general purpose rifle...I have pretty much narrowed my search down to either a PTR-91 or AK variant. Cost is a factor, which normally would make the AK a clear winner as I could buy the gun ( Zastava M70) and a couple cases of ammo for the price of one PTR-91. I...