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Sarge, I don't disagree on using quality products, I'm always looking for that edge, you know what "Stops The Threat" in the least amount of time. The average I think for the .40 is something like 2.49 rounds, where as the 9mm is 2.79 rounds. My goal is 1 or 2, save the rest for any other takers..!

I've been using Fiocchi 170g for target practice and it is great round and have absolutely no problems when using.

My SR40c loves this round, I took somebody's advice who recommended that I test fire my PD ammo, so when I need it it'll work as advertised. So far the "HST" has been great and accurate, recoil is very manageable, I'm really pleased. What else is out there for quality PD?