Bugging in or bugging out?

Patryn

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Age old question.

I have gear to go. I don't believe we will make it 2 weeks in the same place if something happens.
 

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I got to be honest, I don't think I'd make it 2 weeks walking, with no place to go... I think I'd have a much better chance staying at the house. I have 90 days of food, and a lake in the back yard.
 

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I've got a friends house that I would get to. He has stored everything from propane to a library of books for surviving, and enough arms to to take whatever we don't have
 

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I got to be honest, I don't think I'd make it 2 weeks walking, with no place to go... I think I'd have a much better chance staying at the house. I have 90 days of food, and a lake in the back yard.
The two weeks is not necessary walking. A general rule of thumb in Disasters (natural) that if you have had to make it two weeks under stress - you are screwed and need to get out or get help.
 

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I've got a friends house that I would get to. He has stored everything from propane to a library of books for surviving, and enough arms to to take whatever we don't have
That is a mighty nice friend.
 

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If we had to leave the house, I'd have to have a full tank of gas plus 30 gallons of gas in the trunk because we'd be headed to my parent's place. It would take a whole lot to force me out of my shell here though.
 

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Bugging In... unless the environment is not stable or healthy to stay in.
You have to play the devils advocate and assume where you are is no longer safe. I think to many people assume just because its convenient, that their house is going to keep them safe. What if your house is the worst place?
 

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What if your house burned to the ground? or flooded? or a storm took it out?
 

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If we had to leave the house, I'd have to have a full tank of gas plus 30 gallons of gas in the trunk because we'd be headed to my parent's place. It would take a whole lot to force me out of my shell here though.
Yeah but if you havent got a plan B and assume that will happen, you might be screwed.
 
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Yeah but if you havent got a plan B and assume that will happen, you might be screwed.
IF it's that bad I'm screwed anyway. We don't have family anywhere near us here. The closest that I'd go to are my parents and they are 1000 miles away. They have two wells that tap the Ogallala aquifer, are very secluded, lots of game, and I/they know all of the neighbors very well. That's all I've got. The southeast is so densely populated that unless you know someone with land, you're going to be "heading to the mountains" with two million of your closest neighbors. The mountains suck for growing food, and the wildlife isn't abundant enough to feed many people.
It's plan A (stay home), or plan B (drive to my parent's place). That's all I've got.
 

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IF it's that bad I'm screwed anyway. We don't have family anywhere near us here. The closest that I'd go to are my parents and they are 1000 miles away. They have two wells that tap the Ogallala aquifer, are very secluded, lots of game, and I/they know all of the neighbors very well. That's all I've got. The southeast is so densely populated that unless you know someone with land, you're going to be "heading to the mountains" with two million of your closest neighbors. The mountains suck for growing food, and the wildlife isn't abundant enough to feed many people.
It's plan A (stay home), or plan B (drive to my parent's place). That's all I've got.
That part is dang spot on.
 

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I always propose an interesting theory in my classes and thats, "What if Atlanta is the safe spot?" - que debate......... now.
 

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I always propose an interesting theory in my classes and thats, "What if Atlanta is the safe spot?" - que debate......... now.
If Atlanta is the safe spot there will be a tremendous strain on LE, the electrical grid, and water. Hotels and motels near the highways would be slammed, and it'd make travel via car almost impossible. I'm glad I'm a runner.
 
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If Atlanta is the safe spot there will be a tremendous strain on LE, the electrical grid, and water. Hotels and motels near the highways would be slammed, and it'd make travel via car almost impossible. I'm glad I'm a runner.
Having a system in place that works, even if its slow - is better then having no system at all and going mad max on everything.
 
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You have to play the devils advocate and assume where you are is no longer safe. I think to many people assume just because its convenient, that their house is going to keep them safe. What if your house is the worst place?
Couple Plan B's:
Load up the truck and head to middle TN where I have some heavily armed and prepped compadres.
Load up the truck and head north to SW Ohio where I have a lot of friends and family.
*Fortunately my wife is a licensed pilot, so we could always commandeer a single engine and fly there if the roads are impassable.
 
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Couple Plan B's:
Load up the truck and head to middle TN where I have some heavily armed and prepped compadres.
Load up the truck and head north to SW Ohio where I have a lot of friends and family.
*Fortunately my wife is a licensed pilot, so we could always commandeer a single engine and fly there if the roads are impassable.
So what your saying is. We have an airforce of one at our fingertips.
 

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Having a system in place that works, even if its slow - is better then having no system at all and going mad max on everything.
I guess it depends on the scenario. Too bad/dangerous and people won't go to work.
 
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