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I guess what confuses me is with a 20 rd mag, it's not that much higher capacity than many double stack 9mm and since it's not a 'belt carry' handgun, why not a longer barrel. Again, I'm not trying to argue and I'm sure it'd would be a hoot to shoot. I'm just not sure of its niche.

I don't understand. What is the attraction of 3.5" barreled 9mm pistol that is 14" long & weighs 4.5 lbs? Serious question.

My first guess is motivation. If you get a rep for your guns failing in one of those Pakistani villages, the customer complaint is probably going to be a lot more severe than some guy yelling over the phone. More likely a visit from a group of survivors of the firefight where your guns failed...

In 1987, my 'excitebike' was a chopped late 70s 1000cc Suzuki

Being the old man that I am, I have no fucking clue what any of this means. o_O

BRILLIANT!

OK, so now we know where you've been spending your time! "For the kids", sure. :pound:

Thanks. Sounds like my idea wasn't completely wacky. If our money ever gets better I might look into it. Right now I've picked up a 15-22 to try and see if I can relearn to shoot decently since my stroke affected the feeling in my right hand. First centerfire rifle I replace will probably be an...

Is the MVP Patrol the one that can use M1A mags? I've always wanted to check one out, but have never had a chance. Seemed like a nice idea for a rifle you could hunt with in states that restrict capacity but have higher capacity available. Kind of a stealth truck rifle in places that get all...

If the copper gets too heavy, send it my way. If I won the lottery, I'd get one of the copper M2R as well. Yeah, they're heavier, but I'll give up something else. Heck, if I'm really worried about weight, I should just lose some. I've got plenty extra and it don't even light up. :noidea:

So, when you're copying a platform whose primary virtue is robust reliability and you wind up here, what does that say about your product testing before coming to market.

That's a good idea. I'm sure I'll get at least one renewal notice in 2019 ( :whistle: ) before my 2020 expiration. I think I'll call them each time and tell them the same.

Well, the Firearms Policy Foundation is still pushing their lawsuit. This piece contains a link to all the court filings if anyone cares to read them. Still no response from the NRA to my question of whether they would file their own lawsuit or join this one or the one GOA has filed. Evidently...

That was my immediate response and I included links to the GOA and FPF lawsuits if they just wanted to "help" instead of filing their own.

Well, finally got a response from the NRA. A copy of a statement they released Friday 12/21. Basically saying they only asked for the ATF to review bump stock regulations but didn't support the ban. FROM THE NRA: This week, the Department of Justice announced that it would soon be releasing a...

I know I'm just pissing in the wind but I'm getting really angry. Went to the NRA website to see what they are saying about the bump stock ban other than being disappointed that there was no amnesty for those that already own them. No articles at all that I could find on the new federal...

Here's a thread I started earlier today with links to 2 lawsuits being prepared already: https://www.southeasttraders.com/threads/lawsuit-over-bump-stock-ban.20794/

Yeah, I just read their statement. Basically, they're 'disappointed' there was no grandfather clause for people who already owned them to keep them. Like that's a fucking difference that makes a difference. I've been an NRA member and supporter for 4 decades now. I still try to stand up for them...

Yeah, I honestly usually just drink the whiskey in my flask. My wife's family insists on rum in eggnog.

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